Mpack wrote:Read the user manual, chapter 5.2.Not gonna happen, obviously.But if anyone has any idea how to make it even more obvious to users that dynamically growing disk images aren't infinitely inflatable, we'd love to hear it. Right now the relevant text is in bold letters, and clearly that's not enough.I think on average one person a day is awfully surprised that even though they set a maximum size for a virtual disk, it just refuses to go beyond that. Of course for people too stupid or lazy to read what's right in front of their eyes, there may be no remedy. Oracle Corporation Posts: 2956 Joined: 19. Dec 2007, 15:45 Primary OS: MS Windows 7 VBox Version: PUEL Guest OSses: Any and all. Mpack wrote:Read the user manual, chapter 5.2.Not gonna happen, obviously.But if anyone has any idea how to make it even more obvious to users that dynamically growing disk images aren't infinitely inflatable, we'd love to hear it.
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Right now the relevant text is in bold letters, and clearly that's not enough.I think on average one person a day is awfully surprised that even though they set a maximum size for a virtual disk, it just refuses to go beyond that. Of course for people too stupid or lazy to read what's right in front of their eyes, there may be no remedy.michalin,Why dont you get off your arrogant pedestal and ask yourself one simple question: 'why do these messages appear once a day???' PERHAPS SOMETHING IS NOT SO CLEAR, would be the obvious answer!! But then that would be too complicated, would it not? Simple minds find it MUCH simpler to insult.Best regardsP Posts: 3 Joined: 19. Mar 2012, 04:31.
Phamiltonsmith wrote:Looks as though I need to increase the size of the VM.The easiest way to expand the capacity of an NTFS drive is to clone it using, being sure to tick both the 'Increase drive size' and 'Increase partition size' options. IMHO 32GB as a good usable drive size for light XP use - obviously it depends on what apps you intend to install. CloneVDI is a Windows app. To run this on a Mac host you would need to install Wine - I recommend a careful read of thread. If the original VM uses snapshots then you should delete them all, using the UI, before attempting to resize the drive. You should probably also make a backup of the VM folder before starting any of this. Site Moderator Posts: 29198 Joined: 4.
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Sep 2008, 17:09 Primary OS: MS Windows 10 VBox Version: PUEL Guest OSses: Mostly XP. Phamiltonsmith wrote:Why dont you get off your arrogant pedestal and ask yourself one simple question: 'why do these messages appear once a day???' PERHAPS SOMETHING IS NOT SO CLEAR, would be the obvious answer!! But then that would be too complicated, would it not? Simple minds find it MUCH simpler to insult.That's why I asked.
What exactly is unclear? How can we make it more clear? The explanation is all there. I know users don't read it. How can we make them? Can we even?We'd love to hear suggestions from users who missed the (IMHO very clear) descriptions.
Is there in fact anything we could have done?Maybe the real answer is that some people are never going to read the description and will end up being surprised. Since you're one of those people who missed the hints in bold text, I was hoping you'd know what we should have done instead. We would like to improve things, but simply don't know how. Oracle Corporation Posts: 2956 Joined: 19. Dec 2007, 15:45 Primary OS: MS Windows 7 VBox Version: PUEL Guest OSses: Any and all.
I just registered for an Oracle account exclusively to provide feedback to your comment regarding what would make things clearer.While RTFM is always a helpful suggestion, with most software, basic usage can be had by following on screen tips and whatnot as you go through the process. With VBox, the process is extremely straightforward - I have never come across an instance where I felt like I 'needed' to read the manual - That's obviously a compliment to the UI team.I came across this post because my win7 VBox was doing an update, and failed because of lack of disk space. I remember having distinctly chosen to make a Dynamically allocated disk when I made my win7 install, so I was surprised to find that I was unable to increase disk space. Obviously, as you have pointed out, I was mistaken as to the meaning of this term.When you are creating a new VDI, it offers the following:File Type: (VDI, VMDK, VHD, HDD etc)-next-Virtual Disk Storage Details:'Please choose whether the new virtual disk file should be allocated as it is used, or if it should be created fully allocated.A dynamically allocated virtual disk file will only use space on your physical hard disk as it fills up, although it will not shrink again automatically when space on it is freed.' Now, on the following page, there is a slider for choosing your storage capacity, which 'will be reported to the guest OS as the maximum size of this virtual disk.' Since I just chose an option that said my disk space would increase on my physical disk as storage needs were required on my virtual disk, I figured there would surely be a way to change the 'maximum reported' space usage later on. Since the tips were so clear throughout the process, I didn't feel I needed to rtfm.
Now however, I can't install windows updates.The craziest thing to me, is that I only have 2 software items installed in my Win7 instance, totaling to about 500 MB. All of the associated documents are on a shared network drive. So apparently Windows 7 eats up 20 GB pretty quick after updates - Perhaps the 'default setting of 20GB' should be increased when you are building a Win7 instance. I thought it would have been enough, but I guess I thought wrong. Posts: 3 Joined: 28. Mar 2012, 15:41.
Thanks for the feedback.I suspect you're right about 20GB not being quite enough for Windows 7 anymore. I think it used to be enough, but as there are more and more updates that Windows automatically downloads, now it's not quite. We'll look into increasing the defaults.
Anyway, that's a slightly different issue, because it's always possible to run out.The text saying that 'the selected size will be reported to the guest OS as the maximum size of this virtual disk' is correct, but maybe not clear enough. Maybe it needs to repeat that the virtual disk will not grow past that size?FYI, the text on the earlier page has been slightly modified and now reads: 'A dynamically allocated virtual disk file will only use space on your physical hard disk as it fills up (up to a fixed maximum size), although it will not shrink again automatically when space on it is freed'. The bolding is in the actual dialog. Oracle Corporation Posts: 2956 Joined: 19. Dec 2007, 15:45 Primary OS: MS Windows 7 VBox Version: PUEL Guest OSses: Any and all. The text I quoted earlier is not in any release yet, so you wouldn't see it.The word 'dynamic' is provocative, but what can it be replaced with?
'Dynamically allocated' seems to be a good description of what the virtual disks do. However, I think you're on to something that it should be perhaps emphasized that from the guest's perspective, the disk size is always fixed.And a minor correction - Sun didn't start VirtualBox.
Oracle Corporation Posts: 2956 Joined: 19. Dec 2007, 15:45 Primary OS: MS Windows 7 VBox Version: PUEL Guest OSses: Any and all. Another thought.
Would it help to have the user first choose the disk size/location and only then provide the fixed/dynamic allocation selection? That might force the user to think about the size first and only later decide whether the allocation on the host should be postponed or not, as a perhaps unexpected benefit.FWIW, at least one virtualizer uses the term 'thin provisioning' for dynamic virtual disk allocation, but I'm not sure if that enlightens or confuses more. Oracle Corporation Posts: 2956 Joined: 19. Dec 2007, 15:45 Primary OS: MS Windows 7 VBox Version: PUEL Guest OSses: Any and all. Another thought. Would it help to have the user first choose the disk size/location and only then provide the fixed/dynamic allocation selection? That might force the user to think about the size first and only later decide whether the allocation on the host should be postponed or not, as a perhaps unexpected benefit.I think this is a very good idea.The note about 'Thin Provisioning' seems silly and confusing at first, but it avoids the word 'dynamic.'
I still hint towards 'silliness' though.Thanks for taking time to hear me out! Cheers to VBox! Posts: 3 Joined: 28. Mar 2012, 15:41. IMHO, the word 'dynamic' is ingrained now and should remain - and in any case can't be blamed for silly assumptions people make about its meaning. AFAIK, 'dynamic' just means to respond quickly (or anyway in a timely manner). I'm at a bit of a loss to understand why someone would argue that in common use it means a disk with infinite capacity, despite that concept being obviously nonsensical given current filesystem tech.The only advantage of 'thin provisioning' is that the term is inherently meaningless, and therefore it can't easily be thought to mean something else.
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My Seagate 1T external HD has been working for years.
If you performed the hard drive diagnostic and it passed then I suggest you check your boot order and confirm that the Hard Drive is selected as the first boot device. It appears that your system is trying to perform a network boot.
It's especially concerning since the problem started after you opened a suspicious executable file.On next reboot repeatedly tap the Esc key until the Start Up menu appears then tap F9 for Boot Options.In the Boot Options menu be sure that your Hard Drive is selected and the first/primary boot device. Thanks I already tried this and the only options that came up as boot selections were my network card IPv4 and IPv6 options.
I don't know where to go to look and see if the hard drive shows up in BIOS. Yes I have checked the data and power cables, I even tried pulling the power cable and holding the power button and then plugging the power cable back in, but no luck. I don't know what a SATA port is, so that would be a no. Nope I can not put my fingers on the hard drive to see if it is spinning and no I don't have another computer to put the hard drive in ( or even have an idea on how to get it out to put it in another computer) I am on my mother's toshiba laptop that is I think a first generation intel pentium (yeah caveman era).
Not sure what you mean by the boot menu, I did push a button to give me the option to boot from a certain area I think it was the F9 button to get to that area to choose and I did have the option to choose the cd/dvd drive. Sorry it is really late and I have been up all of last night with my computer trying to get it to work.I think I am going to take it to a computer shop tomorrow and see if they can recover the files off my hard drive and maybe see what is going on and how to fix it, my wonderful son is going to pay for it. Yay for an early next years mother's day gift.
Hi maryglythloie,I work at a Student IT Help Desk at my school. Hi maryglythloie,I work at a Student IT Help Desk at my school. Nonsense - you better get a different job, I've been building computers and networks for over 30 years and I don't just throw my hands up and say its a lost cause simply because a drive has a corrupt MBR.
I suggest that you hit the books before you give any more advice on how to give up.No wonder people complain here about the lack of knowledge from help desk people that don't seem to know anything other than the script they are given. Sad.Hello RealBeast. Just had cause to visit this site and saw your reply. I too,never give up trying to find an answer to any problems I have with my computer. I f you know of a way to repair a harddrive that has crashed, after me using CheckDisc, I would appreciate your input, please. The harddrive is partitioned and I can get into one half of it, by using an external drive, but accessing the damaged half has me fumbling around in the dark. Any pointers please, that would help me.
Thanks for your reply,ronykk. I downloaded the Data Recovery and tried it.
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However, the message I am getting is. 'The drive or UNC share you selected does not exist, or is not accessible. Please select another.' This fault occured after I ran Check Disc. Something I have done countless times over the years and with various computers.The drive that I cannot open, is the one with my Windows programme on.
Not the best part of the Harddrive to lose, I guess. Ha haThank you for trying to help me. I would try a couple of things.
First I would run chkdsk on it with the /r option (see ).If that doesn't work open the command prompt window and use diskpart ( ):type these commands one at a time:diskpartlist diskselect disk # (where # is the number of the external drive)cleancreate partition primaryformat fs=ntfs (or fs=fat32 if you want to use on PC and Mac)Hello Real BeastI am new and trying to get hold of you.My questionI followed your instructions, format successful. But I cannot see the external drive any more (after restart too).
If I go to diskpart & list disk, I can see it. Could you or someone help please. I would try a couple of things. First I would run chkdsk on it with the /r option (see ).If that doesn't work open the command prompt window and use diskpart ( ):type these commands one at a time:diskpartlist diskselect disk # (where # is the number of the external drive)cleancreate partition primaryformat fs=ntfs (or fs=fat32 if you want to use on PC and Mac)Hello Real BeastI am new and trying to get hold of you.My questionI followed your instructions, format successful.
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But I cannot see the external drive any more (after restart too). If I go to diskpart & list disk, I can see it. Could you or someone help please. Thanks-correct format is:diskpartlist diskselect disk # (where # is the number of the external drive)cleancreate partition primarylist volumeselect volume #(where # is the number of the external drive)assignexit.rock n roll!!!. I would try a couple of things.
First I would run chkdsk on it with the /r option (see ).If that doesn't work open the command prompt window and use diskpart ( ):type these commands one at a time:diskpartlist diskselect disk # (where # is the number of the external drive)cleancreate partition primaryformat fs=ntfs (or fs=fat32 if you want to use on PC and Mac)i tried the diskpart to the T and it told me 'disk part has encountered an error: the request could not be preformed because of an I/O device error.' I would try a couple of things. First I would run chkdsk on it with the /r option (see ).If that doesn't work open the command prompt window and use diskpart ( ):type these commands one at a time:diskpartlist diskselect disk # (where # is the number of the external drive)cleancreate partition primaryformat fs=ntfs (or fs=fat32 if you want to use on PC and Mac)i tried the diskpart to the T and it told me 'disk part has encountered an error: the request could not be preformed because of an I/O device error.'
In my case everything just slows down. Diskpart is almost unresponsive. Alex jones command and conquered.
Anything else I can try? As I've read the thread, I guess the internal media/platter, or the read & write heads inside your hard disk is damaged. Everything becomes worse whenever you do some operations on your hard disk. I suggest, if you have important files on your hdd stop connecting it to a pc to avoid further damaging the files and the HDD itself. Any read attempts might further damage the Platter or Read/write heads. If you have the tools and knowledge to replace the Read/Write Heads, you can do that, but there's no guarantee.
The best way to repair that was to have it repaired by a HDD and data recovery specialist. Hi maryglythloie,I work at a Student IT Help Desk at my school. I would try a couple of things. First I would run chkdsk on it with the /r option (see ).If that doesn't work open the command prompt window and use diskpart ( ):type these commands one at a time:diskpartlist diskselect disk # (where # is the number of the external drive)cleancreate partition primaryformat fs=ntfs (or fs=fat32 if you want to use on PC and Mac)I got the same problem,when I tried to format/clean it always said 'the request could not be performed because of I/0 device error' and so onany alternative? I would try a couple of things. First I would run chkdsk on it with the /r option (see ).If that doesn't work open the command prompt window and use diskpart ( ):type these commands one at a time:diskpartlist diskselect disk # (where # is the number of the external drive)cleancreate partition primaryformat fs=ntfs (or fs=fat32 if you want to use on PC and Mac)YOU SAVED MY DRIVE, thanks, I'm 66 years old and not a 'geek' by any stretch of the imagination and your clear instructions got my disk back after I mistakenly connected it to a UBuntu system that did something to it.
You are the BEST!! Thanks, Bill Kittredge. I would try a couple of things. First I would run chkdsk on it with the /r option (see ).If that doesn't work open the command prompt window and use diskpart ( ):type these commands one at a time:diskpartlist diskselect disk # (where # is the number of the external drive)cleancreate partition primaryformat fs=ntfs (or fs=fat32 if you want to use on PC and Mac)Hello Real BeastI am new and trying to get hold of you.My questionI followed your instructions, format successful. But I cannot see the external drive any more (after restart too). If I go to diskpart & list disk, I can see it.
Could you or someone help please. Thanks-correct format is:diskpartlist diskselect disk # (where # is the number of the external drive)cleancreate partition primarylist volumeselect volume #(where # is the number of the external drive)assignexit.rock n roll!!!.Hi, I entered 'clean' and it's taking some time (It has been an hour already). Is this normal since I have a one terabyte external drive or is this another sign that it's dying?Thank you for the response in advance! Shortcut keys in excel for color fill. Hey RealBeast, I was hoping this would work on a corrupted ipod classic but when I went to clean it diskpart returned this message, 'DiskPart has encountered an error: The request could not be performed because of an I/O device error.
See the System Event Log for more information.' My problem is even if I knew how to look at the event log = what then would I do with information that I don't even understand? So either I'm dead in the water with trying to reformat this ipod because it has bad sectors or I am willing to try something else. BTW the ipod will not connect to itunes but my Win7 sees it (although it is unnamed). I've tried all kinds of format stuff but nothing has worked. Even if I could use the thing to store files (60GB) it would be worth a save even if it no longer can be used as a regular ipod.